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| ndvanderhoofven | Life of Maxim the Greek | 0 | Saturday, 9:52 PM EST by ndvanderhoofven | ||||
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Here is a biography of Maxim the Greek (in Russian). http://www.mediafire.com/?zuxzwwwyj9v
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| John_Alden | deletion | 0 | Nov 21 2009, 11:15 AM EST by John_Alden | ||||
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Thread started: Nov 21 2009, 11:15 AM EST
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Spiritual heath to everyone!
I think the concern with the Greeks goes back further than 1452, things do not go so wrong without other happenings prior to 1452. Just denying Freemasonry does not make it so, when everyone seems to have a Freemason mindset these days. To me it is unquestionable about the intentions of society in general and all those who continue to participate more and more in this Freemason circus. About deletion, if we began a page here we should be able to delete it without a committee vote, so go ahead and do it as with this page of yours, this is my feeling on the matter. I have already deleted several pages of mine here as the advertisements that Wetpaint puts here are getting more sinful all the time. I am trying to go in the other direction from such things and have begun the deletion of most of my work here. Either I have the content on my site, or soon will. I want to leave as little trace as is reasonable, perhaps I will leave a few things. It took years to put the things I put here, so I may not be able to delete everything. I will likely intentionally leave a few things, I am not completely worried about the past. Put it is best to clean things up the best I can. I do not believe the Milan synod is honest when it comes to denying Masonry. If the page is deleted it might be good to delete all the threads related to it. Forgive, brother John |
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| ndvanderhoofven | This page should be deleted | 0 | Nov 21 2009, 8:56 AM EST by ndvanderhoofven | ||||
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Thread started: Nov 21 2009, 8:56 AM EST
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The Matthewites have removed their allegations, and the 1999 Milan statement denies involvement in masonry.
Of more concern is the Milan Synod's ecclesiology, see http://oldbelievers.wetpaint.com/page/Ecclesiology+of+the+Milan+Synod as well as the problem that all Greek synods have - the Greek Orthodox church went into apostasy in 1452 see http://mymartyrdom.com/down.htm |
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| Anonymous | Milan's 1999 response | 0 | Nov 16 2009, 11:47 AM EST by Anonymous | ||||
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http://www.rusjournal.com/milan_ev.html
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| Anonymous | Michel's text in English | 0 | Nov 16 2009, 11:43 AM EST by Anonymous | ||||
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Thread started: Nov 16 2009, 11:43 AM EST
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"The "Brother" Évloghios (worldwide Klaus Hessler) sign itself in two documents which he claims membership in the Masonic lodges. The synod's decisions are first taken in a box in which the bishops present are Masons and a number of people absolutely étreangères the Orthodox Church. Decisions of this lodge are then imposed on other bishops. The globalist doctrine of Masonry is actually steeped in the new "Metropolis of Western Europe and all America (and soon all of Africa !...). No, except to the Popish doctrine, local church with authority over several continents. This Masonic ideology is foreign to Orthodoxy. The Metropolitan Évloghios had yet signed in Portugal, during his episcopal consecration a commitment not to belong to Freemasonry, for in the Orthodox Church is anti-canonical to be a member of the clergy and mason. This speech has been clearly betrayed. the Metropole Évloghios Koukouli is now in the Masonic ceremonies as well as that of pseudo orders of chivalry which are composed of Masons in costume operetta.
Bishop also said Évloghios in various documents, it is in communion with the Orthodox Church in Ukraine. In reality it neither in communion with the Orthodox Metropolis of Ukraine Abroad member of the Ecumenical Patriarchate, nor with the Kiev Patriarchate headed by His Holiness Patriarch Filaret (which he was excluded from end-September 1997) or with His Holiness Patriarch Dimitri acknowledges that the exclusion of Bishop Évloghios by the Patriarchate led by the Holy Synod headed by Patriarch Filaret. Note that these three Ukrainian churches could be in communion with a bishop belonging to Freemasonry, which is absolutely repeat the anti-canonical." (Google translation) |
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| Anonymous | Not altogether correct | 0 | Nov 16 2009, 11:43 AM EST by Anonymous | ||||
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Thread started: Nov 16 2009, 11:43 AM EST
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"The Matthewites" have NEVER asked for anything of our Synod. Stavros Markou (who is not, specifically, with the Matthewites as a whole, but the Matthewites under Metr Kirykos, and other laypeople have made public requests with the full knowledge that the Metropolitan would never answer such a formal charge so informally. I have gone so far as to inform him that if his Bishop would so much as write a letter that the Metropolitan would respond in an official capacity. That never happened.
Furthermore, before assuming the "gist of the above" is as stated, translate Michel's full letter. I will follow with that post and our Synod's response. Dcn Joseph Suaiden |
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| Anonymous | I am looking for contact with Millville old believers | 2 | Nov 9 2009, 7:21 AM EST by John_Alden | ||||
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Thread started: Nov 7 2009, 9:17 PM EST
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I belong to priestless oldbelievers and I settled down in NYC. I am looking for contact with NJ oldbelievers. Where is the church in Millville, the address?
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| ndvanderhoofven | Armenians are Monophysites | 1 | Oct 30 2009, 5:30 PM EDT by fatman2021 | ||||
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Thread started: Oct 29 2009, 11:21 PM EDT
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Correct me if I am mistaken, but I believe that Armenians are monophysites, and reject the Council of Chalcedon. They are included in the Oriental Orthodox family of churches. They are also members of the heretical WCC. I don't see how they are any better than Protestants. They are interesting only because of the traditions that they maintain, which I agree are very ancient.
See also "http://oldbelievers.wetpaint.com/page/nonChalcedonians"
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| ndvanderhoofven | Another source | 0 | Oct 22 2009, 1:06 AM EDT by ndvanderhoofven | ||||
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Thread started: Oct 22 2009, 1:06 AM EDT
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This is available from: http://www.sobornik.ru/ . I think that the "Prologue from Ohrid" is a revision of this.
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| John_Alden | Starving for the sake of Christ | 0 | Oct 16 2009, 2:46 PM EDT by John_Alden | ||||
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Thread started: Oct 16 2009, 2:46 PM EDT
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This hiker may not have know that everything around him is practically edible.
Though everything is poisoned and will slowly kill us, we should not touch what is unclean. All thea air, all the water and all the food is polluted. Stravation for the sake of Christ is a very reasonable option. Dying for a right cause is not suicide, it is martyrdom. Forgive |
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| John_Alden | The other page | 1 | Oct 14 2009, 6:59 PM EDT by ndvanderhoofven | ||||
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Thread started: Oct 14 2009, 12:59 PM EDT
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There is an older page here with a link to another source of the manuscript.
http://oldbelievers.wetpaint.com/page/Solovetsky+Monastery The older page is referenced by at least one other page here http://oldbelievers.wetpaint.com/page/Slavonic+Books The word "tale" sometimes suggests that the story is imaginary, so I would not use that word in this context, it is undoubtedly the truth to me. I think it is good that other sources are found for these ancient manuscripts. Forgive
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| John_Alden | another page | 1 | Oct 14 2009, 6:52 PM EDT by ndvanderhoofven | ||||
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Thread started: Oct 14 2009, 1:13 PM EDT
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There is another older page which does reference this information here
http://oldbelievers.wetpaint.com/page/The+Monastic+Life Though this older page here includes an image and the link from, the direct links to both parts are not there, so it is nice to also have them. Maybe these two pages on this site should all be combined? The older page is referenced by at least one other page on this site here http://oldbelievers.wetpaint.com/page/Slavonic+Books It does not hurt to duplicate information. Forgive
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| ndvanderhoofven | Another source | 1 | Oct 3 2009, 11:32 AM EDT by John_Alden | ||||
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Thread started: Oct 3 2009, 3:09 AM EDT
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This is also available at http://ancient-orthodoxy.narod.ru/doc/1551.htm
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| ndvanderhoofven | Nil Sorsky and Joseph Volotsky | 0 | Sep 21 2009, 3:47 PM EDT by ndvanderhoofven | ||||
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Thread started: Sep 21 2009, 3:47 PM EDT
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I thought this article was interesting because it explains how both of these men were saints. They had different approaches - Nil was against owning land, Joseph was for it - but neither was trying to impose their views on the other. Joseph was for persecuting heretics, Nil was in favor of a more lenient approach. I think it depends on the situation. I think St. Nil's views are more applicable today. There are a couple of words in the article that did not translate and I would like to find out the meaning: "mesyatseslove" and "neprotivopostavleniya".
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| ndvanderhoofven | New Old Believer history | 2 | Sep 13 2009, 9:59 PM EDT by ndvanderhoofven | ||||
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Thread started: Sep 13 2009, 1:16 PM EDT
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Dear Brat John,
The other old believer history is totally different (that is using different words, not that it contradicts anything). See the rough translation at; http://oldbelievers.wetpaint.com/page/The+Russian+Church+from+the+Epiphany+of+Russia+until+the+middle+of+17th+century
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| John_Alden | At least one bishop required to accept clergy | 0 | Sep 1 2009, 5:53 PM EDT by John_Alden | ||||
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Thread started: Sep 1 2009, 5:53 PM EDT
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At least one bishop required to accept other clergy
No matter what the need of the Church, no earthly ordained clergy can be accepted without the approval of at least one unworldly right believing earthly consecrated bishop. No earthly consecrated bishop can be received without the approval of at least one unworldly right believing earthly consecrated bishop. Where is there even one unworldly right believing earthly consecrated bishop? |
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| John_Alden | The Desolate Sanctuary | 0 | Sep 1 2009, 5:49 PM EDT by John_Alden | ||||
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Thread started: Sep 1 2009, 5:49 PM EDT
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The strict Old Believer condition of having no earthly ordained clergy was foretold by the Holy Prophet Daniel as, “...thy sanctuary that is desolate.” - Daniel 9:17.
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| John_Alden | Mark not a saint | 0 | Sep 1 2009, 3:21 PM EDT by John_Alden | ||||
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Thread started: Sep 1 2009, 3:21 PM EDT
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The strict Old Believers do not see Mark of Ephesus as a saint. I see him rejecting only one of the heresies of the Latins. What about all the others? I certainly do not see the good example there.
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| ndvanderhoofven | Resistance to the Census | 1 | Aug 6 2009, 12:43 AM EDT by John_Alden | ||||
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Thread started: Aug 5 2009, 3:15 PM EDT
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I was just reading about resistance to the census. A liberal group called ACORN, which is involved in voter registration, will be involved in the 2010 census. I think that Old Believers have resisted censuses based on I Chronicles 21, and they believed that being counted was tantamount to being enrolled in the books of the Antichrist. It also made them more easily subject to special taxes such as the beard tax. Anyways, I just wanted to add a quick note - this topic might deserve its own page.
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| venzenait | Toronto Area | 12 | Jul 14 2009, 2:24 PM EDT by venzenait | ||||
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Thread started: Jul 13 2009, 1:17 PM EDT
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I am now in St. Petersburg. Visited quite a few services, talked to our christians. I will be baptized in the city of Kaluga (God wiling) by fr. John (Ioann) Kurbatsky. I am returning to Toronto at the end of November. I will bring home all the needed things to organise a small place to pray. If anyone wishes to gather for prayer in Toronto (as John Alden told me... there are people who're interested in Archeodoxy), PM me or send an email.
Again, I belong to the Belorkinitsky hierarchy. Also I wanted to find out if there are buses that go to Gervais from Toronto. Hope everyone had a grace-filled fasting.
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